Long back we posed a to a question you, in
Vol 2 issue 11, in the article The true
meaning of Darshan. The question was
Some say, “God
knows whatever I do because He is my Indweller.” Others
say, “I don’t do anything; He is the doer.”
Which of these two is correct and why?
We have received several responses to the question and we
are publishing three of the answers.
Sai Ram, dear Uncle,
I love heart to heart as much as I love reading thought of
the day as there is always something "meant specially
for me." As for comments on ‘God knows whatever
I do because He is my Indweller. Others say, I don’t
do anything; He is the doer.’ Which of these two is
correct and why? To my simple mind, they are both correct
because he created us, the stage, the script and he is the
director and producer. When He says in the Gita "Karmanyeva
adhikaraste, ma phaleshu kadachana" why should it only
be attributed to "our " successes? Why not also
to trials and tribulations? After all ego, attachment and
detachment are all part of His shrishti. Yes, he knows everything
as he is the indweller and also the puppeteer. In an earlier
article you had used the eg. of the puppet and puppeteer and
said that as the puppeteer uses two strings to manipulate,
the Lord has retained only one string and given us the other
and that our life on this earth would be much easier if we
handed back the other string to Him also. This is true only
if we feel that he has given us that one string and that "we"
are in control of even that string. To me, both those string
are being controlled by him and there really is no 'freewill'.
So the so called 'freewill' is only what he chooses to let
us imagine in his great play. We get entangled in that play
and act out our parts and go through various experiences in
order to learn that this is His play.
Is God an indweller or is He a doer? The answer is: He is
neither or He is both.
As Gita asserts: God does not claim fruits of people’s
good deeds or evil deeds. God is only a witness. Towards the
end in Gita, Krishna says He resides in the hearts of all
of us, and we are mere puppets mounted on a machine. We act
like puppets because of the illusion we harbor in our mind.
That illusion makes us believe that we, and not God, is the
If you are a philosopher (wise person - a
gnani) or a realized person then
you will accept God as the doer or even the indweller. For,
you will think that God has created the entire creation and
me too. Yes He has a mission and in that mission He needs
an instrument. He decides regarding what I do or do not do
much before I indulge in it.
But when I think I am the doer and Not He, then the new game
starts. I begin to chase the shadow and consider me at times
a winner and at times a loser. I rejoice when I consider myself
as winner and grief takes over me when I feel I am the loser.
It is at that stage that I create my illusory world and take
upon myself the consequences of being a winner or a loser.
As winner I crave more of what I mistakenly believe to be
mine and if I consider me as a loser I allow myself to be
a victim of anger. While in anger I find the cause of anger
outside me. I feel that I am provoked by a person who wants
to harm me. And that person is prompted by the devil in him.
I forget that the so called devil is in fact in me, planted
there by me. It is that devil that is projected by me into
the world outside and the outcome is to my dislike.
Where is God in this game? In this shadow game God is a witness
from within. He is absolutely no doer. All good acts and evil
ones belong to me and not to Him.
But if I get the above enlightenment and
start acting by seeking the guidance from within, the game
changes. I get guidance from Him. He is present in me as my
conscience. He is the indweller. He takes upon Himself the
doer-ship. He takes upon Himself the consequences of my acts.
In fact He has promised that in this game He will look after
our worldly needs and put us on the right path of spirituality
till we reach the goal. He takes us to the end. He helps reaching
there. In fact He makes us wise to realize that the end and
the path are not different and that He and we are identical.
All the time He plays with us the shadow game. Why does He
do this? We will know the answer to this question only when
the game is over. Till then He wants us to act in the interest
of the Humanity Loka Samasta
Sukhino Bhavantu. The role of service to man
is involved in this.
Working for the welfare of the humanity helps us make others
and ourselves happy. On this path of making others happy we
gradually first see ourselves in others. We then see God,
in others and ourselves, who prompts and guides us to work
for others. In the end we see that God is in us and in others
and every where. We then realize, and that is the end part,
that we and God are not different. There is nothing else beside
God and He is an indweller as well as the doer. The game is
over. And we see that there is nothing like in or out or doer
and non-doer. Then the question asked at the beginning pales
into insignificance. It disappears from our mind.
I am trying to answer the question - which one of the following
two questions is correct?
"God knows whatever I do, because He is my indweller"
"I don't do anything; He is the doer".
This triggered my memory of a conversation I had with Swami,
several years ago. I asked Him, "When we do good deeds,
You say that you were there and it was you who did it; whenever
we go astray and do something bad, You say that You had nothing
to do with it and it is all our doing. How can it be possible,
since You are always with us?" The dear Lord answered
thus: "Whenever you did a good deed, you listened to
Me and hence I am responsible for it. Whenever you did a bad
deed - think hard now- didn't I warn you and you chose to
neglect Me? Under such circumstances how can I be responsible?
Ijust merely watch you with pity! I am a silent observer here."
How true it is! We have been fortunate to have this living
God guiding us. He is always with us wherever we are, whatever
we do. Each devotee would have had plenty of experiences to
this effect. We get immersed in the illusion of this material
world and forget His presence now and then. Since He is always
with us, the first statement is true. On the same note, if
we truly realize that He is within us and we are not different
from Him then the second statement becomes true, because we
lose our physical identity and understand that He and I are
one. This is total surrender.
I feel that most of us are at the first situation and all
of us are working towards the second. At least I can speak
for myself. I know that He is watching over me and guiding
me at every step of my life. I still have a long way to go
in destroying the ahamkara and mamakaras to achieve total
Yours in Sai
Editor’s observations: The three answers
given here essentially speak of the same concept but in different
words. To summarise what they say:
As long as we are in this game called Duality, we feel that
we are separate from God and that He is the indweller who
just witnesses our actions. But when the game is over and
we have realized our oneness with God, we realize that there
were never two entities called me and God and that GOD alone
was. So, at the end of the game, we say, God is the doer,
which is true!
Congratulations, dear readers, for the wonderful