word, 'surrender', in English, is not quite correct; it is not the
right word. Because, when you say, 'surrender', you are separate
and God is separate. That is the meaning you get. But God is not
A Visitor: The word,
'surrender', is not the correct word, so Self-realisation...
Self-realisation that is why they call it so. You are You. You realise
your own Self. You are you, not your wife. You are You.
A Second Visitor:
Where is our responsibility? We are supposed to share, to help others.
A Third Visitor: Help
is the base, or foundation. 'Help' is the wall. God is the roof
or top of the building. ‘Light’ is the owner.
A Visitor: But she
was asking, 'what is the limit?’ Where is the limit of one's
responsibility? How far should she go?
SAI: First you should
look after yourself and not be a burden. That is the first thing.
If you are not able to help so many people, it doesn't matter. But
if you don't do anything that is harmful, that is real help. If
you can't help a person, never mind. But don't harm anybody. To
harm is bad. But the very feeling you have that you can't help,
itself is good.
You must have physical strength, spiritual strength, and mental
strength; and only when you have the three, then you can really
do service. Food, head, and God. Food is for the body; and you want
a good body so the brain can function properly, so you can think.
And why do you want this head and that intellect? To realise that
which is beyond this - and that is God.
Visitor: But it hurts
me to see people in need, beggars and innocent little children who
A Second Visitor:
Is it not egoistic to have everything for yourself?
Translator: But Swami
did not mean in that sense. What Swami said is that when you do
not have the physical, mental and spiritual strength, how can you
really help another person?
SAI: Sometimes when
we are not balanced and have not realised the proper truth, we will
mislead so many other people.
A Visitor: It is that
you cannot give what you do not have.
A Second Visitor: Nothing before straightening
H: Is it possible
for Swami to give the lady Self-realisation?
A Third Visitor: Swami
says it is possible. Since He gives the Truth, cannot He also give
Self-realisation to the heart?
SAI: When there is
that feeling, that depth of feeling, Swami can give it. Oh, yes.
She has such a depth of feeling for the body. If she has the same
intensity for God-realisation, Swami can give it - just now.
H: So, that is what
Swami means by, ‘Before you can help people'.
SAI: The more intensity,
the greater the result. If you are digging a well, the deeper you
dig the higher will be the wall formed by the mud you bring out.
The depth is in the form of the height. (The deeper you dig the
higher the wall).
H: Swami says that
He cannot give to a dry heart. Why is the heart dry?
God gives even that for our own good. When you aren’t hungry,
why should He give you food? When you’re hungry and receive
food, it is useful; but if you aren’t hungry and He gives
you food, you will have indigestion. Sometimes, even if you are
hungry, God doesn’t give you food - just to keep you in check
Suppose you are in the hospital; they can't give you everything
you might ask for. There is a proper time and a proper way for your
own sake. Sometimes God withholds even a spiritual experience because
God does everything for man's good. He never does anything to harm
man or give him sorrow. But you must have that faith. First you
must grapple with the fact that duty is God, and start doing your
H: Is it that the
heart is dry because one is not doing one’s duty?
heart is really dry. At least men have sense love. At least you
have worldly love for children, family and others. It is the same
love but given to some only. You only have to take it all and give
it to God.
(to be continued…)